Vitalik Buterin (Ethereum Co-founder) – Internet Money [Bankless Podcast] (Apr 2020)


Chapters

00:04:47 Exploring the Complexities of Bitcoin and Ethereum: A Deeper Look
00:11:04 Use Cases of Cryptocurrency
00:13:27 Competition and Fairness in Cryptocurrency Liquidity
00:19:38 Importance of Bitcoin's Immaculate Conception
00:22:07 Ethereum's Proof-of-Stake and EIP-1559
00:27:47 Ethereum's New EIP-1559 Mechanism and its Economic Implications
00:33:49 The Role of the Ethereum Foundation in Proof-of-Stake
00:38:26 Proof of Stake and Exchange Collusion Risks
00:44:24 Detecting and Preventing Censorship and Attacks in Ethereum
00:47:33 Ethereum's Path to Ossification: A Gradual Shift from Radical Changes to
00:55:52 Ethereum Monetary Policy: Minimum Viable Issuance
00:59:36 Social Contract and Node Relationships in Blockchain Networks
01:02:39 Blockchain System Values and Evolution
01:08:03 Cryptocurrency Communities: Unique Social Phenomena
01:10:05 Blockchain and the Future of Government
01:19:22 Contrasting Bitcoin and Ethereum: Theses and Differences

Abstract

Navigating the Evolving Cryptocurrency Landscape: Insights from Vitalik Buterin

Vitalik Buterin’s Take on Bitcoin and Ethereum

Vitalik Buterin sees Bitcoin and Ethereum as focusing on different areas. Bitcoin is primarily seen as an asset and store of value, while Ethereum values the network more. Vitalik believes that both can coexist in the long term, with multiple large assets surviving.

Vitalik is surprised by the staying power of various crypto assets, including XRP, Bitcoin Cash, BSV, and EOS. He notes that even assets with questionable value have maintained their value over time.

Vitalik Buterin, the influential co-founder of Ethereum, shares valuable insights into the dynamics of Bitcoin and Ethereum, the complexities of cryptocurrency use cases, and the intricate interplay between technological advancements and economic principles that shape the cryptocurrency space. Exploring Buterin’s perspectives, we delve into the nuances of the ecosystem, from Bitcoin’s monetary characteristics to Ethereum’s transition to proof-of-stake, gaining a deeper understanding of the competing narratives and the practical realities of cryptocurrencies.

1. The Philosophical and Functional Divergence of Bitcoin and Ethereum

Vitalik Buterin draws a clear distinction between Bitcoin and Ethereum, emphasizing Bitcoin’s focus on monetary functions and Ethereum’s emphasis on smart contract applications. While both aim to create a decentralized foundation, their core functionalities differ. Buterin acknowledges their shared roles as stores of value and mediums of exchange, but highlights their unique technological properties, particularly in censorship resistance. Furthermore, he notes the distinct roles of their respective currencies: Bitcoin’s blockchain primarily supports its currency, while Ethereum’s Ether is integral to powering the platform.

1.1 Bitcoin and Ethereum’s Distinct Approaches to Money:

Bitcoin’s inception, devoid of any preexisting governance or control, is often referred to as its “immaculate conception.” The narrative surrounding Bitcoin’s neutrality is crucial in establishing its potential as a medium of exchange and store of value. The perceived neutrality of Bitcoin allows for broader acceptance and recognition as a common point of reference.

Buterin, however, expresses discomfort with the term “money” due to its broad and subjective connotations. He distinguishes Bitcoin’s approach, which views the blockchain as supporting the currency, from Ethereum’s approach, where the currency supports the blockchain.

1.2 Ether and Bitcoin as Assets:

Vitalik highlights the store of value function of crypto assets, where they are held for their monetary or technological properties. He emphasizes the censorship resistance of crypto assets as a valuable property, particularly for a base layer. Ether and Bitcoin compete in the store of value category, but their technological differences and the applications they support create distinct value propositions.

2. Cryptocurrency Use Cases and Global Liquidity Competition

Cryptocurrencies offer diverse use cases, extending beyond payments and subscriptions to acting as collateral and units of account. This multiplicity leads to intense competition for global liquidity, with cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin seeking to attract users to invest in their assets. This competition is underpinned by network effects, where liquidity begets more liquidity, creating a virtuous cycle of growth. Buterin emphasizes the importance of fair initial conditions for a currency’s success, discussing Ethereum’s genesis allocation, which balanced centralized allocation to early contributors with a publicly advertised sale.

2.1 Competition for Global Liquidity:

There is a fierce “fight for liquidity” among assets as individuals and communities decide where to store their wealth. Bitcoin is competitive in this fight due to its strong network effects and liquidity.

Cryptocurrencies are heavily influenced by narratives and perceptions held by individuals and communities. Different cultures and values can impact the perceived value and significance of cryptocurrencies, acknowledging the importance of stories in shaping their value.

2.2 Network Effects in Cryptocurrencies:

Network effects in cryptocurrencies are more forgiving than in other areas, such as social networks. Cryptocurrencies can start small and gradually increase liquidity and value over time.

Proof of work, initially implemented as a fair and egalitarian method for distributing coins in the early years of cryptocurrencies (2009-2013), allowed anyone with a computer to participate and acquire coins. However, the limited awareness of cryptocurrencies during this period limited the egalitarian aspect of distribution.

3. Ethereum’s Technological Evolution and Economic Principles

Buterin delves into Ethereum’s technical advancements, including its transition from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake. This transition aims to enhance fairness by making Ethereum ASIC-resistant and reducing centralization risks in mining. The introduction of EIP-1559, which reforms Ethereum’s fee market, is a pivotal move towards stabilizing transaction fees and potentially making ETH deflationary. Buterin counters the Austrian critique of deflationary mechanisms, arguing that a small deflationary issuance rate can be beneficial. He also discusses the Ethereum Foundation’s role in staking in Ethereum 2.0, emphasizing the need for transparency and trust.

3.1 EIP-1559 and Proof of Work:

EIP-1559 is a mechanism designed to make transaction fees more predictable and reduce miner revenue volatility. Proof of work, a way to secure the network and achieve consensus, is computationally intensive and energy-consuming. Vitalik acknowledges the environmental concerns surrounding proof of work and suggests that Ethereum’s transition to proof of stake will address these issues.

ASICs have led to a decline in the fairness of mining due to their high costs and potential for manipulation by manufacturers. Ethereum was designed as an ASIC-resistant proof-of-work system to address this issue and promote a more balanced distribution of coins.

4. Addressing Centralization and Collusion Risks

Buterin addresses the risk of centralization in Ether holdings, particularly by large exchanges, and the potential for collusion leading to a 51% attack. He advocates for a balanced approach to staking and suggests mechanisms to mitigate centralization, such as encouraging non-custodial staking models. The role of governments and the risk of forced collusion are also acknowledged, with Buterin highlighting the importance of the slashing mechanism in discouraging attacks and maintaining the network’s integrity.

4.1 Ethereum Foundation’s Staking, Trust, and Exchanges:

Vitalik Buterin suggests that the Ethereum Foundation (EF) should stake about the same percentage of its ETH as the entire Ethereum ecosystem stakes. This would minimize conflict of interest and ensure neutrality in manipulating proof-of-stake parameters.

The Ethereum community places a significant amount of trust in the EF to act in their best interests. Vitalik clarifies that there are two aspects of trust: honesty in protocol decisions and refraining from actions that could harm the network.

Vitalik views exchanges staking as a larger threat than the EF due to the vast amount of ETH held on exchanges. Exchanges have an incentive to offer staking services to customers, creating a potential conflict of interest.

Vitalik suggests shifting the ecosystem towards non-custodial models to reduce reliance on exchanges holding large amounts of Ether. Platforms like Loopring and StarkEx exemplify non-custodial models that enhance security and decentralization.

Christian Keroles raises concerns about centralized exchanges being coerced by governments to participate in collusion. Buterin acknowledges this possibility and highlights the potential consequences for exchanges and their coins in such a scenario.

5. Ethereum’s Social Contract and Future Roadmap

The article touches upon Ethereum’s commitment to continual improvement, with a focus on transitioning to proof-of-stake and sharding. Buterin envisions a future where changes to Ethereum will be more incremental, adhering to the principle of minimal viable issuance to maintain network security. The internal divide within the Ethereum community between favoring protocol ossification and off-chain governance is also discussed, underscoring the complexities of managing a decentralized ecosystem.

5.1 Ethereum’s Social Contract:

Buterin defines Ethereum’s social contract as a set of informal agreements and expectations among Ethereum stakeholders. He emphasizes the importance of consensus, the role of developers and miners, and the need for compromise and flexibility in maintaining the network.

Proof-of-stake does not distribute coins but significantly reduces issuance compared to proof-of-work. The issuance in Ethereum 2.0 is estimated to be between 100,000 and 1 million ETH per year, compared to 4.7 million ETH today. In the long run, the issuance of new coins will become less relevant as transaction fees become the primary source of income for miners. Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are moving towards scenarios where the majority of miner income will come from transaction fees rather than newly issued assets. Vitalik Buterin expresses his desire for a more egalitarian distribution of coins but acknowledges the difficulty in designing mechanisms that are fair, decentralized, and anonymous.

6. Ethereum as a Digital Nation: Blockchain Communities and Government Roles

Buterin likens cryptocurrencies to digital nations, with unique currencies, rules, and cultural identities. He challenges the notion that control over currency is the sole defining feature of a government’s power, emphasizing the importance of physical security, healthcare, and infrastructure management. In the digital age, Buterin argues for the significance of privacy in cyberspace, advocating for technologies like zero-knowledge proofs.

7. The Coexistence of Bitcoin and Ethereum: A Dualistic Ecosystem

Finally, Buterin addresses the perceived competition and complementarity between Bitcoin and Ethereum. He views them as coexisting entities with distinct focuses: Bitcoin as an asset and store of value, and Ethereum as valuing the network over the asset. This coexistence, Buterin believes, allows for a diverse ecosystem where multiple large assets can maintain value, avoiding a winner-takes-all scenario.

Conclusion

Vitalik Buterin’s insights reveal the intricate layers of the cryptocurrency world, highlighting the philosophical underpinnings, technological advancements, and economic principles that define this dynamic landscape. His nuanced understanding of Bitcoin and Ethereum, the role of the Ethereum Foundation, and the broader implications for digital governance paint a comprehensive picture of the challenges and opportunities within the cryptocurrency sphere. As cryptocurrencies continue to evolve, Buterin’s perspectives provide a valuable framework for understanding and navigating this complex and ever-changing domain.


Notes by: Random Access