Peter Thiel (Facebook Board of Directors) – Remarks at Economic Club Of New York (Mar 2018)
Chapters
00:00:34 Tech Trends and Geographic Dispersion in the Digital Age
Important Insights: Technological progress over the last 20-25 years has been predominantly focused on information technology (IT), leading to the dominance of computer science, software engineering, and the internet. The narrow focus on IT has resulted in underexplored areas in other engineering fields and a geographically concentrated tech industry centered around Silicon Valley.
Interesting Points: Peter Thiel suggests that the next big tech company may not be found within the traditional tech hub of Silicon Valley. The search for the “next Google” has become more challenging due to the saturation of the consumer internet market. Thiel believes that the future of technology may lie in areas beyond the consumer internet, such as artificial intelligence, augmented reality, virtual reality, and self-driving cars.
Valuable Insights: The rising cost of living in megacities like San Francisco and New York is becoming a concern for tech companies, with a disproportionate amount of venture capital funding going towards rent and real estate. Thiel proposes that there may be a point where the high cost of living in these megacities outweighs the benefits of network effects and access to capital, leading to a potential shift towards more geographically distributed tech hubs.
00:07:23 Identifying Key Elements for Fostering Innovation
Inelasticity of Housing: In London, the inelasticity of housing is minus 2, meaning that a 1% increase in housing supply leads to a 2% decrease in average housing prices. This perverse result means that building more housing in London collectively decreases its worth. This distortion highlights a system in need of change.
Tipping Point in Silicon Valley: There may be a tipping point in Silicon Valley where the high cost of living and business operation becomes a tax on innovation. The efficiency of network effects can transition into lemming-like and bubble-like behavior, leading to a madness of crowds.
Stoking Innovation: Innovation requires a critical mass of talent, creative thinking, and a sense of opportunity. San Francisco had these qualities more prominently a decade ago than it does today.
Anecdote from Columbia, South Carolina: A coffee shop in Columbia, South Carolina, had comfortable chairs, spaced far enough apart for privacy, and allowed customers to work on laptops without interruption. This anecdote highlights the importance of physical spaces that foster creativity and innovation.
Conclusion: The inelasticity of housing, the potential tipping point in Silicon Valley, and the importance of physical spaces for creativity are all factors that influence innovation.
00:10:18 Economic and Political Realities in Silicon Valley and Beyond
Silicon Valley’s Problems: Peter Thiel left San Francisco, citing herd-like thinking and political uniformity as reasons for his departure. He believes the lack of diversity, poor local schools, and high cost of living have contributed to the frustration of Silicon Valley residents. Thiel argues that political correctness has gone too far, leading to a near-totalitarian environment where questioning the prevailing ideology is seen as unacceptable.
Peter Thiel’s Support for President Trump: Thiel supported President Trump early on, despite pushback from colleagues and others in the Valley. He believes Trump’s willingness to ask questions and reframe debates is a positive attribute. Thiel views political correctness as a significant problem and supports Trump’s efforts to challenge it.
Economic Policies: Thiel praises the tax reform passed in 2017, arguing that it simplifies taxes and makes American businesses more competitive globally. He also credits the rollback of regulations with boosting economic growth.
Trade Policy: Thiel questions the current trade relationship between the U.S. and China, where capital flows uphill from China to the U.S. He believes there are granular questions that need to be asked to address this imbalance. Thiel cautions against being too dogmatic about free trade and emphasizes the importance of carefully negotiating trade treaties.
00:19:36 China: Economic and Innovation Challenges
China: Thiel recognizes China’s progress and innovation, evidenced by the success of his book “Zero to One” in China compared to India. He sees China’s aggressive approach to entrepreneurship and innovation as a model for the United States to consider. Thiel supports the current trade restrictions and tariffs on China, believing they are necessary to achieve fair trade and protect American interests. He acknowledges the difficulty in predicting China’s response to tariffs, given the limited US exports to China.
Europe: Thiel highlights the asymmetry in trade between China and the US, as well as between Germany and the US. He suggests that Germany, like China, may struggle to retaliate against US tariffs without harming its own economy. Thiel attributes the trade surpluses of China and Germany to their focus on investment and value-added taxes, in contrast to the US’s consumption-oriented economy.
Privacy: Thiel expresses pride in supporting Hulk Hogan’s successful lawsuit against Gawker Media over the release of a sex tape. He views this case as a stand against the egregious claims of media companies to profit from the private lives of individuals without consent.
Regulation: Thiel believes that the current regulatory environment is insufficient in addressing the privacy concerns raised by the power of technology companies. He proposes exploring new regulatory approaches that focus on individual control over personal data and the prevention of companies from profiting from private information without consent.
00:25:29 Tech Titans Debate Privacy, Regulation, and the Future of Cryptocurrencies
Privacy in the Digital Era: Thiel believes that privacy in the digital era deserves rethinking. He rejects the idea that technological determinism makes privacy obsolete. He argues that privacy is a legal, cultural, social, and political issue, and we should strive for a balance that protects more privacy in the future.
Regulation of Tech Companies: Thiel dislikes regulation but worries that tech companies’ failure to take privacy issues seriously could lead to regulation. He sees the threat of regulation being greater in Europe due to privacy concerns and resentment towards the success of US tech companies.
Docker vs. Big Tech: Thiel distinguishes between voluntary data sharing and illegally obtained data that violates privacy. He believes that these issues are always open to reconsideration.
Bitcoin: Thiel has been a supporter of Bitcoin since before meeting Bartiromo in Saudi Arabia. He remains skeptical of many cryptocurrencies but sees great potential in Bitcoin.
00:29:55 Bitcoin as a Store of Value: Contrasting it with Gold
Blockchain Technology: Thiel expresses skepticism about the investment potential of blockchain technology beyond its use case as a store of value, specifically Bitcoin.
Bitcoin as a Store of Value: Thiel compares Bitcoin to gold as a store of value, highlighting their similarities in terms of scarcity and lack of government backing. He suggests that Bitcoin has the potential to replace gold as a store of value, given its limited supply and increasing adoption.
Stability of Bitcoin’s Value: Thiel acknowledges the volatility of Bitcoin’s value, comparing it to a bubble that may or may not burst. However, he argues that the social acceptance and network effect of money can provide stability to its value, even in the face of speculative bubbles.
Similarities to the Dot-Com Bubble: Thiel draws parallels between the current cryptocurrency landscape and the dot-com bubble of the late 1990s, citing similarities such as the presence of fast-talking promoters and exaggerated claims.
Contrarian Nature of Cryptocurrency: Despite the similarities to the dot-com bubble, Thiel emphasizes the contrarian nature of cryptocurrency, noting the lack of support from Wall Street analysts and banks. He views this as a positive sign, suggesting that the technology has the potential to disrupt established financial systems.
Decentralized Development of Cryptocurrency: Thiel highlights the distributed nature of cryptocurrency development, with major projects like Ethereum being developed outside of traditional financial centers. He sees this decentralized approach as a key differentiator from the dot-com bubble, where development was concentrated in Silicon Valley.
00:33:27 Exploring Growth Opportunities in Cryptocurrency, Space Travel, Artificial Intelligence, and Health Care
Bitcoin: Thiel believes there will be one cryptocurrency that will be the equivalent of gold. He recommends betting on Bitcoin because it is the biggest and most established cryptocurrency. However, he acknowledges that there are risks associated with Bitcoin, such as the 51% miner rule and the pseudonymity of transactions.
SpaceX: Thiel has been an early investor in SpaceX and has known Elon Musk for 18 years. He was initially skeptical of Musk’s plans for rocket reusability but has since been impressed by SpaceX’s achievements. Thiel believes that SpaceX’s success is due to its end-to-end manufacturing process and its focus on innovation.
AI: Thiel believes that AI is changing the world in a profound way. He sees AI as a powerful tool that can be used to solve some of the world’s biggest problems, such as climate change and disease. However, he also warns that AI poses risks, such as the potential for job displacement and the development of autonomous weapons.
Growth Stories: Thiel declined to discuss specific growth stories or industries that he is interested in. He prefers to focus on specific companies and believes that it is more important to understand the company than the industry it operates in.
00:38:52 Charismatic and Uncharismatic Aspects of Technology
AI’s Uncharismatic Nature: Thiel observes the lack of charisma surrounding AI technology. AI’s perceived threat to jobs and its association with dystopian scenarios contribute to its uncharismatic image. This negative perception is prevalent in Hollywood movies, New York City, and even Silicon Valley.
Charismatic Technologies: Thiel identifies certain technology sectors that possess charisma. Cryptocurrencies, with their vision of a transformative world, hold a charismatic appeal. Biotech, driven by the noble pursuit of curing diseases and improving health, also exudes charisma. Elon Musk’s endeavors, with their transformative potential, embody charisma.
Qualities of Charismatic Technologies: Charismatic technologies inspire and motivate individuals within the companies working on them. They extend beyond mere profit-making; they possess a transcendent mission. They offer a compelling narrative of how technology can positively impact the world.
AI’s Undefined Nature: Thiel acknowledges the ambiguity surrounding the term “AI.” It can encompass various concepts, from the next generation of computers to the final generation. This lack of clarity contributes to the difficulty in fully comprehending AI’s potential.
AI and Emerging Technologies: AI and emerging technologies are often portrayed in a negative light, with concerns about job displacement and a dystopian future. Thiel believes these concerns are overblown and that these technologies can bring about significant benefits.
Automation’s Pace: Automation has been occurring for centuries, and the pace has not necessarily accelerated recently. Industries like manufacturing have been automating at a steady rate, while non-tradable service sector jobs have changed little.
Concern About Slow Automation: Thiel’s main concern is that automation is happening too slowly, leading to low productivity growth. He emphasizes that jobs like yoga instructors and kindergarten teachers have remained largely unchanged for decades.
Need for More Automation: Thiel argues that more automation is needed to address low productivity and boost economic growth. He believes that the current pace of automation is not sufficient to bring about meaningful improvements.
00:43:19 Steelmanning the Opposition: The Key to Political Engagement
AI: Peter Thiel believes the term “AI” is overused and poorly defined. He sees AI more as incremental automation rather than the transformative technology often portrayed in science fiction. Thiel emphasizes the importance of productivity numbers and cautions against Silicon Valley’s overly optimistic view of AI.
Amazon: Thiel considers Amazon the most ferocious company in the U.S., primarily due to its relentless expansionary strategy. Amazon’s low-margin core business allows it to pursue higher-margin ventures, making it a formidable competitor. Thiel highlights Amazon’s willingness to enter new markets, such as banking, and its aggressive approach to competition.
Politics: Thiel predicts President Trump’s reelection if he runs in 2020. He believes the Democrats are making the same mistake the Republicans did with Obama in 2012, focusing on opposition rather than addressing real issues. Thiel suggests Democrats should adopt a “steel man” approach, considering and addressing the underlying issues behind Trump’s arguments. He criticizes the Democrats’ current strategy of simply resisting Trump without offering a clear message or engaging with the underlying problems.
Media: Thiel questions the media’s motivations, suggesting that some liberal outlets may benefit from President Trump’s administration due to increased ratings. He draws a parallel to the Clinton era, where conservative media outlets saw a surge in circulation due to their coverage of Clinton scandals. Thiel suggests that some media outlets may have a vested interest in Trump’s presidency due to the financial benefits it brings.
00:51:48 Political Celebrity Culture and Media Profits
Media’s Dependence on Trump: Peter Thiel suggests that certain media outlets, such as the Washington Post, late-night comics, and celebrities like Alec Baldwin and Robert De Niro, may benefit financially and professionally from Donald Trump’s presidency. Thiel argues that these entities are likely hoping for Trump’s re-election, even though they may not publicly express this desire to their audiences.
Abstract
The Evolution and Challenges of the Technology Landscape: Insights from Peter Thiel
Shifting Paradigms in Tech: Beyond Silicon Valley’s Echo Chamber
In a profound exploration of the current state of technology, Peter Thiel, a luminary in the tech world, offers a multifaceted critique spanning Silicon Valley’s narrowed focus on information technology, the dominance of the consumer internet, and the geographical concentration of innovation. Thiel highlights the potential of emerging technologies like AI and self-driving cars, while also delving into broader issues such as political uniformity in Silicon Valley, the repercussions of Trump’s presidency on trade and innovation, and the evolving dynamics of cryptocurrency. This article synthesizes Thiel’s perspectives into a comprehensive narrative, emphasizing the most significant aspects of his observations and predictions.
1. Narrowed Focus in Silicon Valley:
Thiel criticizes Silicon Valley for its limited focus on consumer internet and information technology, overlooking advancements in other engineering fields. This tunnel vision has led to remarkable businesses but has also left numerous other areas underexplored and underdeveloped.
2. Geographical Concentration of Innovation:
The heavy concentration of tech innovation in Silicon Valley, with its high cost of living and limited diversity of ideas, has been a double-edged sword. While it has created a hub of technological progress, it also risks becoming an echo chamber, stifling creativity and diversity in thought.
3. The Challenge of Finding the Next Google:
Thiel expresses skepticism about the likelihood of finding the next major tech success within the Silicon Valley vicinity, suggesting that future breakthroughs might emerge from less conventional locations due to the region’s high costs and herd-like thinking.
4. Economic Implications and Venture Capital:
Thiel raises concerns about the economic implications of the high cost of living in tech megacities, questioning whether this fosters or hinders creativity. He also points out that a significant portion of venture capital ends up funding real estate rather than directly supporting innovation.
China’s Progress and Model:
Thiel acknowledges China’s progress and innovation, evidenced by the success of his book “Zero to One” in China compared to India. He sees China’s aggressive approach to entrepreneurship and innovation as a model for the United States to consider.
Trade Restrictions and Tariffs:
Thiel supports the current trade restrictions and tariffs on China, believing they are necessary to achieve fair trade and protect American interests.
Predicting China’s Response:
Thiel acknowledges the difficulty in predicting China’s response to tariffs, given the limited US exports to China.
Asymmetry in Trade:
Thiel highlights the asymmetry in trade between China and the US, as well as between Germany and the US.
Germany’s Trade Surplus:
Thiel suggests that Germany, like China, may struggle to retaliate against US tariffs without harming its own economy.
Consumption-Oriented Economy:
Thiel attributes the trade surpluses of China and Germany to their focus on investment and value-added taxes, in contrast to the US’s consumption-oriented economy.
5. Geographic Arbitrage and Innovation Distribution:
Thiel suggests that innovation might become more geographically distributed, driven by the rising costs in traditional tech hubs and the opportunities presented in locations with lower living expenses. Thiel’s thoughts on the geographic arbitrage of innovation and the importance of lower living expenses to encourage creativity align with his idea that the next Google might not be found in Silicon Valley.
6. Housing Market Paradox in London:
Thiel notes the paradox in London’s housing market, where increasing housing supply paradoxically decreases its collective worth due to inelasticity.
7. Silicon Valley at a Tipping Point:
There’s a growing concern that Silicon Valley might be reaching a tipping point, where high costs and taxation could negatively impact its efficiency and innovation drive. The high cost of living in megacities like San Francisco and New York is becoming a concern for tech companies, with a disproportionate amount of venture capital funding going towards rent and real estate. Thiel believes this trend cannot continue indefinitely and that there may be a point where the high cost of living outweighs the benefits of network effects and access to capital.
8. Stoking Innovation and Political Uniformity:
Thiel underscores the importance of a critical mass of talent and creative thinking for fostering innovation. However, he criticizes the political uniformity in Silicon Valley, which he views as almost totalitarian and stifling to diverse thought.
9. Thiel’s Views on Trump’s Presidency:
Thiel appreciates Trump for challenging political correctness and reframing debates. He commends Trump’s tax reform but also acknowledges areas of disappointment, suggesting Trump is a better alternative than others.
10. Trade Relations and China’s Role:
Thiel urges a reevaluation of trade relations, especially with China. He points out the unusual flow of capital and the need for a more nuanced approach to trade policies. Thiel also raises concerns about China’s role in venture capital and intellectual property issues.
Bitcoin as a Store of Value:
Thiel compares Bitcoin to gold as a store of value, highlighting their similarities in terms of scarcity and lack of government backing. He suggests that Bitcoin has the potential to replace gold as a store of value, given its limited supply and increasing adoption.
Stability of Bitcoin’s Value:
Thiel acknowledges the volatility of Bitcoin’s value, comparing it to a bubble that may or may not burst. However, he argues that the social acceptance and network effect of money can provide stability to its value, even in the face of speculative bubbles.
Similarities to the Dot-Com Bubble:
Thiel draws parallels between the current cryptocurrency landscape and the dot-com bubble of the late 1990s, citing similarities such as the presence of fast-talking promoters and exaggerated claims.
Contrarian Nature of Cryptocurrency:
Despite the similarities to the dot-com bubble, Thiel emphasizes the contrarian nature of cryptocurrency, noting the lack of support from Wall Street analysts and banks. He views this as a positive sign, suggesting that the technology has the potential to disrupt established financial systems.
Decentralized Development:
Thiel highlights the distributed nature of cryptocurrency development, with major projects like Ethereum being developed outside of traditional financial centers. He sees this decentralized approach as a key differentiator from the dot-com bubble, where development was concentrated in Silicon Valley.
11. Europe’s Economic Dynamics:
12. Privacy, Regulation, and Technology:
Privacy in the Digital Era:
Thiel believes that privacy in the digital era deserves rethinking. He rejects the idea that technological determinism makes privacy obsolete. He argues that privacy is a legal, cultural, social, and political issue, and we should strive for a balance that protects more privacy in the future.
Regulation of Tech Companies:
Thiel dislikes regulation but worries that tech companies’ failure to take privacy issues seriously could lead to regulation. He sees the threat of regulation being greater in Europe due to privacy concerns and resentment towards the success of US tech companies.
Voluntary vs. Illegal Data Sharing:
Thiel distinguishes between voluntary data sharing and illegally obtained data that violates privacy. He believes that these issues are always open to reconsideration.
13. Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency:
AI:
Thiel believes the term “AI” is overused and poorly defined, often referring to incremental automation rather than the transformative changes portrayed in science fiction. He cautions against Silicon Valley’s overly optimistic view of AI and emphasizes the need for realistic productivity numbers.
Amazon:
Thiel considers Amazon the most ferocious company in the U.S. due to its relentless expansion and willingness to enter new markets. He highlights Amazon’s low-margin core business and aggressive approach to competition, seeing it as a formidable competitor in various industries.
Politics:
Thiel predicts President Trump’s reelection if he runs in 2020. He criticizes the Democrats’ current strategy of resisting Trump without offering a clear message or addressing the underlying problems. Thiel suggests that the Democrats should adopt a “steel man” approach, considering and addressing the underlying issues behind Trump’s arguments.
Media:
Thiel questions the media’s motivations, suggesting that some liberal outlets may benefit financially from President Trump’s administration due to increased ratings. He draws a parallel to the Clinton era, where conservative media outlets saw a surge in circulation due to their coverage of Clinton scandals. Thiel implies that certain media entities may have a vested interest in Trump’s presidency due to the financial benefits it brings.
Media’s Dependence on Trump:
Thiel suggests that certain media outlets and personalities, such as the Washington Post, late-night comics, and celebrities, may benefit financially and professionally from Donald Trump’s presidency. He argues that these entities may be hoping for Trump’s re-election, even though they may not publicly express this desire to their audiences.
In conclusion, Thiel’s insights offer a comprehensive overview of the current challenges and potential shifts in the technology landscape. His emphasis on diversification, both in terms of innovation focus and geographic distribution, along with his critiques of political and economic dynamics, present a compelling narrative for the future of technology and innovation.
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