Peter Thiel (Facebook Board of Directors) – Thiel (Feb 2017)
Chapters
00:00:36 Reaffirming Timeless Principles While Questioning Received Wisdom
We Must Never Give Up: Post-election discouragement and the need to persevere The folly of quitting and the inspiration of General Fouque’s battlefield report
Reaffirming Essential Truths: The importance of reaffirming timeless principles, even when unpopular Bill Buckley’s call to “bring hammer blows against the bell jar” of dreamers
Questioning Received Wisdom: The need to examine reality and adjust principles to practical politics The changing landscape of politics and the need for adaptation Ronald Reagan’s hypothetical policy adjustments in today’s context
Peter Thiel’s Introduction: His business acumen and insights into human nature His investment in Facebook and co-founding of PayPal His encouragement of young people to pursue productive endeavors His upcoming discussion on technological progress and its assumptions
Thiel’s Conversation on Life After Death: His friend’s skepticism and hope for non-existence to avoid an unpleasant afterlife The mood of uncertainty and dissatisfaction in the United States regarding the future The need to reflect on expectations and assumptions about technology and science
Transportation: Travel speeds have not improved since the 1960s, despite promises of faster transportation like flying cars. The Concorde, a supersonic passenger jet, was decommissioned in 2003, marking a decline in aviation speed. Airport security systems have become more time-consuming, further slowing down travel.
Energy: The U.S. has failed to recover from the oil shock of the 1970s, and real energy prices are comparable to the worst period of the Carter era. The nuclear industry has stagnated, and nuclear engineering is no longer a promising field of study. Alternative energy sources, such as cleantech, have failed to deliver on their promises and have become associated with financial losses.
Commodity Goods: A famous bet between Julian Simon and Paul Ehrlich in the 1980s showed that commodity prices decreased in that decade. However, since 1993, commodity prices have been rising, indicating a reversal of the earlier trend. Food prices have escalated, and the green revolution of the 1950s and 1960s has stalled, leading to food shortages and contributing to events like the Arab Spring.
Medical Innovation: The number of drugs going through the FDA approval process has decreased significantly in the past 20 years. Expectations for medical advancements have diminished, and ambitious goals like defeating cancer by the Bicentennial in 1976 have not been achieved.
00:11:41 Stagnation in Technological Innovation: A Cultural and Regulatory Perspective
40-Year Deceleration in Technological Progress: Thiel observed a 40-year deceleration in technological progress, with stagnation in various areas, including Alzheimer’s research and innovative industries.
Causes of the Deceleration: One argument is that all the easy ideas have been discovered, leading to a natural decline in progress. Thiel favors the cultural explanation, suggesting that we stopped trying and pursuing innovation. Heavy regulation in industries like aerospace, biotechnology, and nuclear power stifled progress.
The Unregulated Computer Industry: The computer industry, with minimal regulation, experienced tremendous progress during the same period. However, Thiel argues that computers alone cannot solve all our problems and that progress requires freedom in the physical world as well.
Environmentalism and the Cartesian Dualism: Thiel sees a form of environmentalism that allows manipulation of virtual information but prohibits changes to the real, material world. This separation, or Cartesian dualism, limits the economic value of technological advancements.
Economic Stagnation and the 1970s: Comparing 40-year intervals, Thiel found a significant deceleration in income growth from 1973 to 2013 compared to 1933 to 1973. He attributes this stagnation to banning large areas of technology from societal use.
The 1970s Cultural Shift: Thiel pinpoints the 1970s as the decade when things went wrong, as opposed to the commonly cited 1980s. He sees the hippie counterculture and the separation of the real and virtual worlds as key turning points.
The Abandonment of the Gold Standard: Thiel views the 1971 abandonment of the gold standard as a critical moment in the separation of money from the real economy. This separation allowed for monetary manipulation, but it also limited the real-world impact of economic growth.
00:17:04 Economic and Political Implications of Technological Stagnation
Deceleration of Technological Progress: There has been a significant slowdown in technological progress in recent decades. This deceleration has led to economic problems such as bubbles and credit crises.
Bubbles and Expectations: Bubbles occur when people have unrealistic expectations of progress and economic growth. These bubbles burst when the expectations are not met.
The End of Bubbles: The current government borrowing bubble is unsustainable and will eventually end. When it does, there will be a different perspective on things.
Challenges for the Republican Party: The Republican Party’s core constituencies, the middle class and upper middle class, are threatened by a stagnant world. In a stagnant world, there will be political pressure to eliminate the middle and upper middle class.
Stagnant World and Inequality: A stagnant world can coexist with a few rich people and many desperately poor people. However, it is impossible to have a large group of people who expect to improve their lives year after year in a stagnant world.
00:22:33 Technological Stagnation and the Pessimism of the Current Administration
Technology and the Current Administration: The current administration’s policies primarily benefit the super wealthy, not the poor or the middle class. The administration’s lack of focus on technological and scientific progress sets it apart from traditional socialist or communist ideologies. Marx was optimistic and focused on real-world progress, while the current administration is pessimistic and abstract.
Critique of the Current Administration: The administration lacks a clear five-year plan or measurable goals, which is essential for effective socialism. The Republican critique of the administration often lacks a scientific or technological basis, as seen in the example of Solyndra. The substitution of the word “change” for “progress” reflects a decline in the belief in measurable improvement.
Pessimism and Epicureanism: The Epicurean philosophy, which Marx feared, suggests that workers would eventually prioritize work-life balance and personal pursuits over revolution or progress. This pessimistic zeitgeist has become widespread, with many people no longer believing in a better future.
The Specter of Malthus: The end result of stagnation is the return of scarcity and the specter of Malthus, who predicted that population growth would outpace food production.
00:28:22 Technological Stagnation and Its Consequences
Technological Stagnation: Peter Thiel argues that we are facing Malthusian situations due to a lack of innovation. He points to the U.S. fiat money system and the prevalence of unhealthy, corn syrup-based diets as examples of this decline. Thiel believes that libertarians and conservatives should not accept or deny this decline but should fight it and strive for innovation.
Fracking and Alternative Energy: Thiel supports the fracking revolution as a necessary alternative to failed renewable energy initiatives. He acknowledges the risk of environmental regulations outlawing fracking and emphasizes the need to ensure logistical feasibility. While Thiel sees fracking as a necessary improvement, he questions whether it represents absolute technological innovation. He raises the question of whether fracking will lower oil prices to levels comparable to those of conventional energy in the past.
Obama Administration’s Policies: Thiel argues that the Obama administration’s policies prioritize transfers from the middle and upper middle class to the top. He cites Obamacare as an example, suggesting that it negatively impacts those with employer-provided health insurance while potentially benefiting those without insurance. Thiel predicts that companies may use Obamacare as an excuse to shift employees to government-funded programs, leading to increased deficits.
00:34:15 Government Policies Driving Income Inequality and Stagnation in the United States
Libertarianism and the Republican Party: Thiel argues that a libertarian perspective is more relevant today due to the reality of stagnation. He believes the Republican Party should adopt a more nuanced view, being personally optimistic but pessimistic about what can be done. Thiel suggests a shift from the optimism of Jack Kemp to the pessimism of Ron Paul.
Pessimism and Policy: Thiel believes that many libertarian stances, such as a less strict war on drugs, stem from a pessimistic view of society. He uses the example of marijuana legalization as a result of the failure of the war on cancer. Thiel sees libertarianism as the pessimistic thread within the Republican Party, skeptical of government action, foreign wars, and various interventions.
Income Inequality: Thiel emphasizes the need to correctly diagnose the causes of income inequality. He believes misguided government policies are a significant factor, rather than actions from the right. Thiel argues that income inequality is a bigger problem in a stagnant world. He suggests that the same government policies that prevent economic growth also contribute to rising inequality.
Conclusion: Thiel stresses the importance of understanding the root causes of income inequality and addressing them effectively.
00:38:43 Addressing Stagnant Economies, Energy Policy, and Innovation
Key Ideas for Tackling Global Income Inequality and Economic Stagnation: Deregulate the energy industry to lower prices, potentially reducing global income inequality. Abolish the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to expedite drug approval processes. Eliminate restrictive zoning laws that hinder development and innovation.
Government Intervention in Innovation: Government support for science and technology has declined in effectiveness. The productivity of government-supported scientists is significantly lower than in the past. A lack of understanding of science and technology among policymakers hinders effective innovation initiatives.
Challenges in Government-Led Innovation: The large number of government-supported scientists has not resulted in a proportional increase in innovation. Peer-reviewed funding processes prioritize incremental progress over groundbreaking ideas. The lack of science and technology expertise among policymakers limits their ability to make informed decisions.
The Teal Fellowships: The Teal Fellowships aim to encourage talented individuals to pursue alternative paths outside of traditional academia. The program seeks to identify and support individuals who demonstrate exceptional potential in various fields. The Teal Fellowships provide financial assistance and mentorship to selected individuals, allowing them to explore new opportunities and contribute to societal progress.
Critique of Higher Education: Thiel believes that higher education has become overly bureaucratic and stifled by excessive regulations. He views the current state of universities as a “bubble” characterized by indeterminate learning outcomes and unclear applications of knowledge. Thiel advocates for a reassessment of the value of higher education and encourages individuals to consider alternative paths to success.
Debt and Indentured Servitude: Peter Thiel draws a parallel between student debt and indentured servitude, suggesting that the trillion dollars in student loans have effectively resulted in people becoming indentured to their debt.
Lies about Education Quality: Thiel believes that a significant portion of the trillion dollars in student loans has gone towards paying for lies about the quality of education received, implying that the education system has misrepresented its value.
Fraying System: The education system is facing challenges, evidenced by the increasing number of graduates moving back home with their parents after college, indicating that something is not functioning as intended.
Disruption on the Horizon: Thiel predicts that the education system is due for some form of disruption in the coming years, as it is currently unsustainable and in need of change.
Uplifting Despair: The interview with Peter Thiel is described as “upliftingly despairing,” suggesting that while his insights are thought-provoking and valuable, they also highlight the significant issues within the education system.
Abstract
Reassessing Progress: A Critical Examination of Conservatism, Technology, and Societal Stagnation
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With technological advancements abounding yet unfulfilled promises looming, the conservative movement finds itself at a crossroads, re-evaluating its principles amid rapidly changing realities. This article explores the perspectives of prominent thinkers like Bill Buckley and Peter Thiel, examining conservatism’s response to societal disillusionment, technological stagnation, and economic challenges. It scrutinizes missed opportunities since the 1960s, Thiel’s critique of governmental policies, and their implications for the political and economic landscape. Ultimately, this analysis delves into the reasons behind the current stagnation in progress and the conservative movement’s response, uncovering the intricate relationship between technology, politics, and societal expectations.
Reaffirming Essential Truths:
At its core, conservatism emphasizes the reaffirmation of timeless principles, as championed by Bill Buckley. His call to challenge prevailing ideologies aims to spark impulses for change. This aspect underscores the conservative movement’s dedication to its foundational values, even in the face of changing times and unpopular opinions. It echoes Buckley’s plea to challenge established norms and bring “hammer blows against the bell jar” of dreamers.
Questioning Received Wisdom:
A vital component of conservatism involves the willingness to reassess assumptions in light of new realities. This principle, rooted in the legacy of Ronald Reagan, advocates for policies that blend timeless principles with contemporary contexts. It suggests a dynamic, adaptive approach to practical politics, acknowledging that the changing landscape of politics may necessitate adjustments to principles. Reagan’s hypothetical policy adjustments in today’s context are explored, emphasizing the need for adaptation and flexibility in the face of changing circumstances.
Technological Progress and Disillusionment:
Peter Thiel, a prominent voice in technology and innovation, highlights the stark contrast between past optimistic technological expectations and today’s reality. His insights mirror a broader societal disillusionment, as the dreams of flying cars and groundbreaking medical cures from the 1960s and 1970s remain unfulfilled. Thiel’s friend’s skepticism and hope for non-existence to avoid an unpleasant afterlife are discussed. The prevailing mood of uncertainty and dissatisfaction in the United States regarding the future is mentioned. The need for reflection on expectations and assumptions about technology and science is emphasized.
Missed Opportunities and Stagnant Progress:
This section analyzes the gap between past optimism and current reality. The stagnation in scientific and technological progress, evident in areas like transportation, energy, and medicine, has led to a sense of disillusionment. Key indicators include stagnant transportation speeds, the failure of energy innovation, and the slow pace of medical advancements.
Transportation:
Previously promising modes of transportation, such as flying cars, have failed to materialize, with travel speeds remaining unchanged since the 1960s. The decommissioning of the Concorde, a supersonic passenger jet, in 2003 marked a decline in aviation speed. Moreover, airport security systems have become increasingly time-consuming, further slowing down travel.
Energy:
The United States has yet to recover from the oil shock of the 1970s, with real energy prices comparable to the worst period of the Carter era. The nuclear industry has stagnated, and nuclear engineering is no longer a promising field of study. Alternative energy sources, such as cleantech, have failed to deliver on their promises and have become associated with financial losses.
Commodity Goods:
A famous bet between Julian Simon and Paul Ehrlich in the 1980s showed that commodity prices decreased in that decade. However, since 1993, commodity prices have been rising, indicating a reversal of the earlier trend. Food prices have escalated, and the green revolution of the 1950s and 1960s has stalled, leading to food shortages and contributing to events like the Arab Spring.
Medical Innovation:
The number of drugs going through the FDA approval process has decreased significantly in the past 20 years. Expectations for medical advancements have diminished, and ambitious goals like defeating cancer by the Bicentennial in 1976 have not been achieved.
Conservative Movement’s Response and Energy Issues:
The conservative response to these challenges emphasizes preserving core truths while adapting to new circumstances. This approach extends to energy and commodity issues, where the failure in innovation has led to higher prices and economic challenges, mirrored by the stagnation in the nuclear industry and the shortcomings of cleantech alternatives. Thiel’s support for the fracking revolution as a necessary alternative to failed renewable energy initiatives is mentioned. He acknowledges the risk of environmental regulations outlawing fracking and emphasizes the need to ensure logistical feasibility. While Thiel sees fracking as a necessary improvement, he questions whether it represents absolute technological innovation.
Diminished Expectations and Deceleration of Progress:
The overall slowdown in progress has resulted in diminished expectations for the future, evident in the unfulfilled war on cancer and other medical advancements. Thiel attributes this deceleration to cultural shifts and regulatory overreach, notably in sectors like aerospace and biotechnology.
Deceleration of Technological Progress:
Thiel observed a 40-year deceleration in technological progress, with stagnation in various areas, including Alzheimer’s research and innovative industries.
Causes of the Deceleration:
One argument is that all the easy ideas have been discovered, leading to a natural decline in progress. Thiel favors the cultural explanation, suggesting that we stopped trying and pursuing innovation. Moreover, heavy regulation in industries like aerospace, biotechnology, and nuclear power stifled progress.
The Unregulated Computer Industry:
The computer industry, with minimal regulation, experienced tremendous progress during the same period. However, Thiel argues that computers alone cannot solve all our problems and that progress requires freedom in the physical world as well.
Environmentalism and the Cartesian Dualism:
Thiel sees a form of environmentalism that allows manipulation of virtual information but prohibits changes to the real, material world. This separation, or Cartesian dualism, limits the economic value of technological advancements.
Libertarianism and the Republican Party:
Thiel’s libertarian perspective gains relevance in the face of stagnation, prompting the Republican Party to adopt a more nuanced view, balancing optimism with pessimism. He proposes a shift from Jack Kemp’s optimism to Ron Paul’s pessimism. Thiel’s libertarian stances, such as a less strict war on drugs, stem from a pessimistic view of society, evident in the legalization of marijuana as a response to the failure of the war on cancer. He considers libertarianism as the pessimistic thread within the Republican Party, skeptical of government action, foreign wars, and various interventions.
Income Inequality:
Thiel emphasizes the need to correctly diagnose the causes of income inequality, attributing it to misguided government policies rather than actions from the right. He sees income inequality as a bigger problem in a stagnant world, where policies preventing economic growth also contribute to rising inequality.
Technological Deceleration and Implications:
Thiel’s critique extends beyond technology to various societal aspects, emphasizing the slow pace of progress in areas like infrastructure construction. He advocates for microeconomic reforms to foster innovation and address economic challenges.
Bubbles and Economic Crises:
The innovation slowdown has fueled economic bubbles, such as the tech and housing bubbles, leading to credit crises and downturns. These bubbles reflect unrealistic expectations of progress in a world where innovation is lagging.
Bubbles and Expectations:
Bubbles occur when people have unrealistic expectations of progress and economic growth, eventually bursting when these expectations are not met.
The End of Bubbles:
The current government borrowing bubble is unsustainable and will eventually end, leading to a different perspective on various issues.
Political Implications and Technological Stagnation:
The stagnant economic environment challenges political parties, especially the Republican Party, whose core constituencies could be affected by wealth redistribution in a stagnant economy. Thiel criticizes the current administration for policies that favor the wealthy and neglect the middle and upper-middle class. He also sees a lack of focus on technological and scientific progress, setting it apart from traditional socialist or communist ideologies.
Conclusion and Thiel’s Perspective:
Peter Thiel warns of a looming, unsustainable bubble, urging recognition and mitigation of its potential consequences. He critiques the Obama administration for policies like Obamacare, which he views as transferring wealth from the middle class to the wealthy. Thiel’s analysis covers a range of topics, including healthcare, income inequality, libertarianism, and the need for policy changes in areas like energy deregulation, FDA abolition, and zoning reform. He emphasizes the political and economic implications of government policies and the importance of a nuanced approach to societal challenges.
Overall Theme and Policy Suggestions:
Thiel’s analysis covers a range of topics, including healthcare, income inequality, libertarianism, and the need for policy changes in areas like energy deregulation, FDA abolition, and zoning reform. He emphasizes the political and economic implications of government policies and the importance of a nuanced approach to societal challenges.
Final Thoughts:
This exploration offers a critical reflection on the conservative movement’s approach to technological and societal stagnation. It underscores the importance of reassessing principles and policies in the face of changing realities, highlighting the need for innovation, adaptation, and a balanced perspective on progress and its challenges.
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