Graham Allison (Harvard University Professor) – US and China (Jun 2017)


Chapters

00:00:16 Thucydides' Trap: US-China Relations in Historical Perspective
00:12:22 China's Rise and the World's Astonishment
00:18:15 Inadvertent Conflict between US and China
00:24:22 Nuclear Weapons and the Thucydides Trap: Implications for US-China Relations
00:32:40 The Thucydides Trap and the US-China Relationship
00:35:53 Thick Interdependence and the Illusion of Peace
00:38:53 China-Russia Relations: A Dynamic Alignment
00:43:09 Thucydides Trap: U.S.-China Relations in Historical Context
00:49:02 China's Economic Outlook: Uncertainties and Challenges
00:52:13 India's Role and Challenges in the US-China Rivalry
00:55:22 Different Worldviews and Thucydides' Trap
01:02:05 Similarities and Differences in Chinese and American Nationalism

Abstract

Navigating the Thucydides Trap: The Complex Dynamics of US-China Relations (Updated with Supplemental Information)

In a world increasingly shaped by the interplay of great powers, Graham Allison’s book, “Destined for War: America, China, and Thucydides’ Trap,” provides a critical examination of the escalating tensions between the United States and China. Allison explores the concept of Thucydides’ Trap, where a rising power like China instills fear in an established power like the United States, potentially leading to conflict. This analysis, juxtaposed with the anecdotes of China’s efficiency, the risk of inadvertent conflict, and the influence of nuclear weapons, paints a nuanced picture of a global order at a crossroads. Allison’s insights, combined with the complexities of economic interdependence, cultural differences, and the leadership styles of Xi Jinping and Donald Trump, reveal a multifaceted landscape of potential conflict and cooperation.

Thucydides’ Trap and Historical Patterns:

Allison’s analysis begins with the concept of Thucydides’ Trap, derived from the ancient Greek historian Thucydides, who observed the dynamics between Athens and Sparta. He identifies 16 instances in the past 500 years where a rising power threatened a ruling power, resulting in war in 12 cases. The current dynamics between the U.S. and China closely resemble this pattern, with China’s rise instilling fear and apprehension in the United States, thus increasing the risk of conflict.

China’s Rise and Economic Might:

China’s rapid ascent to economic dominance is a central theme in Allison’s book. He notes China’s advancements in infrastructure, technology, and economic power, highlighting its status as the largest economy by purchasing power parity. The contrast between China’s efficient reconstruction of the Sanyan Bridge in Beijing and the prolonged reconstruction of the Anderson Bridge at Harvard epitomizes this growth. Allison points out that by 2014, according to the IMF and CIA, China surpassed the United States in terms of purchasing power parity. This meteoric rise often clashes with American perceptions and cultural understandings, further complicating the relationship.

The Risk of Inadvertent Conflict:

Allison underscores the risk of unintended conflict in U.S.-China relations, drawing parallels with the unintended chain reactions that led to World War I. Current tensions in the Korean Peninsula and Trump’s stance on North Korea exemplify these dangers. The risk of inadvertent conflict is emphasized, with Allison citing World War I as a cautionary tale of how minor events can trigger catastrophic outcomes.

Nuclear Weapons and Mutual Assured Destruction:

The presence of nuclear weapons in the U.S.-China dynamic creates a situation of mutual assured destruction, encouraging caution and compromise. This, along with the economic entanglement between the two nations, acts as a potential stabilizer in their relationship.

Areas of Competition and Conflict:

Despite these stabilizing factors, areas of competition and conflict persist, particularly in regions like the South China Sea and in ideological differences. China’s military presence and its aspiration for a “great rejuvenation” challenge U.S. interests and highlight ongoing tensions.

Clues for Peace and Understanding:

Allison suggests that understanding each other’s perspectives and goals is crucial for the U.S. and China to avoid conflict. He emphasizes cooperation in areas such as climate change and the need for the U.S. to appreciate China’s vision of regaining its historical regional dominance.

Economic Interdependence and Historical Lessons:

Allison references Norman Angell’s “The Grand Illusion” and the pre-World War I European scenario to argue that economic interdependence alone may not prevent war. He draws a parallel between U.S.-Japan relations leading to Pearl Harbor and the current U.S.-China dynamics, underscoring the complexity of these relationships.

The Role of Russia and Japan in U.S.-China Relations:

The geopolitical landscape is further complicated by Russia’s alignment with China against a common adversary, the U.S. The historical rise of Japan and its conflict with the U.S. provide another parallel to China’s current situation. Putin’s opportunistic actions in Ukraine serve as a distraction for the U.S., potentially benefiting China. In the event of a U.S.-China conflict, Putin might exploit the U.S.’s divided focus. The rise of Japan in the 1930s and the subsequent U.S. oil embargo leading to Pearl Harbor draw stark parallels to the current U.S.-China dynamics, highlighting the dangers of economic coercion and rising power aspirations.

Xi Jinping’s Awareness and Approach:

Xi Jinping’s awareness of the Thucydides Trap and his efforts to avoid historical mistakes offer hope for preventing conflict. His economic assistant, Liu He, a former student of Allison, has played a significant role in shaping Xi’s understanding of history and its implications for China-U.S. relations.

China’s Long-Term Challenges and Potential:

Despite its rapid growth, China confronts challenges such as pollution and social issues. However, its potential for productivity suggests it could eventually surpass the U.S. economy. The rise of India as a regional power adds another layer to this complex geopolitical scenario. India’s rise, akin to the U.S.’s ascent against Britain in the early 20th century, differs as Japan is already a major power in Asia, and India has the potential to become one.

Cultural Differences and Leadership Styles:

Allison highlights stark cultural differences and contrasting leadership styles between the U.S. and China. America’s self-perception as number one and its core value of freedom starkly contrast with China’s view of itself as the center of the universe and its emphasis on order. These differences extend to government and foreign policy perspectives, with America favoring a democratic republic and inclusiveness, while China prefers responsive authoritarianism and exclusivity. The clash of civilizations exacerbates the Thucydidean dynamic, with America’s idea of order based on equality and democratic governance contrasting sharply with China’s hierarchy-centered view.

Impact of Donald Trump’s Presidency and the Dangers of a Novice in Office:

The book, completed before the 2016 election, initially considered revisions due to Trump’s presidency. However, Allison decided to leave it unchanged, acknowledging in the preface that Trump’s presidency could increase the risk of conflict with China. Both Xi and Trump represent national insecurities and fears, with China viewed as a threat to America’s greatness and Xi perceiving America as trying to keep China down. Trump’s inexperience in government and history poses additional dangers, highlighting the risks of having a novice in such a critical position.



The U.S.-China relationship, as analyzed by Graham Allison, is a complex interplay of historical patterns, economic interdependence, inadvertent risks, and cultural differences. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for navigating the precarious path ahead. While the Thucydides Trap suggests a likelihood of conflict, the insights from Allison’s analysis provide a roadmap for avoiding past mistakes and forging a path of peaceful coexistence.


Notes by: MatrixKarma